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Full convert to posh servos now :D got 2x A73BHLW V2 from Scorched Parts cracking service so far.

Stuck one in my kkpit beetle and at first it did not seem any quicker than the cheap brushless one that was in it before but dear lord you can tell when the beetle is ripping about the steering is so responsive and way faster now, well worth the cash to me :).

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These 6s Kagamas are tanks you will enjoy launching it :D.

Only things I keep an eye on are the rear lower hinge pins like to bend after hard crashes never effected how it drives just wears the little plastic inserts out quicker and the rear input pinion bearings like to wear making play and buggering up the mesh on the rear diff :rolleyes:.
 
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Horatio said:
The thing is, if people are running high response radios, receivers etc - decent servos aren't really optional
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I think this is the reason I feel no need to buy higher quality products, nothing is missing in my mind.. I know if I ever turned a wheel against anything “competitively” I’d “get it”. It’s bittersweet I suppose, a part of me wants to race to see where I stack up but I know I can’t afford to go down the rabbit hole. Home Alone it is, LOL.
 
KnowAir said:
I think this is the reason I feel no need to buy higher quality products, nothing is missing in my mind.. I know if I ever turned a wheel against anything “competitively” I’d “get it”. It’s bittersweet I suppose, a part of me wants to race to see where I stack up but I know I can’t afford to go down the rabbit hole. Home Alone it is, LOL.
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Your track is cool as hell! With trunks of doom! 😅 You'd be much better at racing than you think, but your pace would build over several months while you get into it.

Then - tyres, geometry, electronics, weight savings, other upgrades etc all start finding you cumulative micro gains - provided the driving is consistent.

Response from your radio, your inputs, also start making a difference to a much more direct feeling rig, which on a race track generally becomes more desirable as your pace improves.

Out in the open though, or where you're running on your own - these things matter less and likely aren't worth the coin. Totally understandable. 👍
 
Even for a basher, precision can be important. As my skills have improved I seek out jumps that have little room for error. I also like making transfers or gaps with consequences.
Partydaz said:
Full convert to posh servos now :D got 2x A73BHLW V2 from Scorched Parts cracking service so far.

Stuck one in my kkpit beetle and at first it did not seem any quicker than the cheap brushless one that was in it before but dear lord you can tell when the beetle is ripping about the steering is so responsive and way faster now, well worth the cash to me :).

​

These 6s Kagamas are tanks you will enjoy launching it :D.

Only things I keep an eye on are the rear lower hinge pins like to bend after hard crashes never effected how it drives just wears the little plastic inserts out quicker and the rear input pinion bearings like to wear making play and buggering up the mesh on the rear diff :rolleyes:.
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I modified the hinge pin holders and lower control arms to fit Tekno 4mm hinge pins. Everything is much more durable now. The 3mm hinge pins have no business being on a 1/8 monster truck with wide LCA’s.
 
danl said:
Even for a basher, precision can be important. As my skills have improved I seek out jumps that have little room for error. I also like making transfers or gaps with consequences.

I modified the hinge pin holders and lower control arms to fit Tekno 4mm hinge pins. Everything is much more durable now. The 3mm hinge pins have no business being on a 1/8 monster truck with wide LCA’s.
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I agree that 3mm isn't enough for 1/8 scale, that's Traxxas level inefficiency LOL. But, Corally 6s rigs already come equipped with 4mm hinge pins as standard equipment? Maybe the Tekno pins are a better quality?
Kagama front/rear inner hinge pins..
https://corally.com/en/product/C-00...ot-pin-lower-inner-frontrear-steel-68mm-2-pcs
 
Partydaz said:
Full convert to posh servos now :D got 2x A73BHLW V2 from Scorched Parts cracking service so far.

Stuck one in my kkpit beetle and at first it did not seem any quicker than the cheap brushless one that was in it before but dear lord you can tell when the beetle is ripping about the steering is so responsive and way faster now, well worth the cash to me :).

​

These 6s Kagamas are tanks you will enjoy launching it :D.

Only things I keep an eye on are the rear lower hinge pins like to bend after hard crashes never effected how it drives just wears the little plastic inserts out quicker and the rear input pinion bearings like to wear making play and buggering up the mesh on the rear diff :rolleyes:.
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Now that your converted although unless you use discount code scorched prob best price for them , but if get them from AliExpress direct from agfrc can buy them without servo horn bit cheaper than with then upgrade to their more fancy servo horn 😂

I just found this on AliExpress: | AGFRC HSS16AG Aluminum Alloy 25T Spline M3 1/10 Clamping Steering Servo Arm Horn for RC Crawler Buggy Truggy Car Upgrade Parts
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EyKX00K

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KnowAir said:
I agree that 3mm isn't enough for 1/8 scale, that's Traxxas level inefficiency LOL. But, Corally 6s rigs already come equipped with 4mm hinge pins as standard equipment? Maybe the Tekno pins are a better quality?
Kagama front/rear inner hinge pins..
https://corally.com/en/product/C-00...ot-pin-lower-inner-frontrear-steel-68mm-2-pcs
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You are right, my memory is horrible. Corally are 4mm.

Kyosho IF624-69 are 4.5mm x 69mm

Tekno TKR9620 are 5mm x 68mm. This is what I use.
 
Nelson.81 said:
Now that your converted although unless you use discount code scorched prob best price for them , but if get them from AliExpress direct from agfrc can buy them without servo horn bit cheaper than with then upgrade to their more fancy servo horn 😂

I just found this on AliExpress: | AGFRC HSS16AG Aluminum Alloy 25T Spline M3 1/10 Clamping Steering Servo Arm Horn for RC Crawler Buggy Truggy Car Upgrade Parts
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EyKX00K

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That is a posh servo horn I like'em with sum meat on them 😌, kinda reminds me of the ones that came with the yipin x80 servos I got in the parts draw just not as meaty.
 
danl said:
You are right, my memory is horrible. Corally are 4mm.

Kyosho IF624-69 are 4.5mm x 69mm

Tekno TKR9620 are 5mm x 68mm. This is what I use.
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5mm, oh my! That is significant. I guess I was uninformed. My Tekno rc’s use 4mm, kind of forgot about the MT48.
5mm though, I believe Arrma 8s uses 5mm pins but considering the mass, 5mm seems too small. TRX 8s uses 4mm, hence my previous comment. Works, but could/should be larger IMO.
I rarely bend or break them myself, usually a crash is when I do.
But yeah, Arrma 8s uses 5x96 if ur ever in a pinch and can’t get the Tekno pins. Just cut to desired length.
 
Partydaz said:
That is a posh servo horn I like'em with sum meat on them 😌, kinda reminds me of the ones that came with the yipin x80 servos I got in the parts draw just not as meaty.
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Is it posh or boujee? LOL. Just playin’. One of my adult daughters has married into money and everything fancy (or posh) is now boujee.. drives my wife and I nuts. We didn’t raise her that way but she’s an adult now, so🤷‍♂️
 
KnowAir said:
5mm, oh my! That is significant. I guess I was uninformed. My Tekno rc’s use 4mm, kind of forgot about the MT48.
5mm though, I believe Arrma 8s uses 5mm pins but considering the mass, 5mm seems too small. TRX 8s uses 4mm, hence my previous comment. Works, but could/should be larger IMO.
I rarely bend or break them myself, usually a crash is when I do.
But yeah, Arrma 8s uses 5x96 if ur ever in a pinch and can’t get the Tekno pins. Just cut to desired length.
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The inferno MP10 uses 4.5mm. Kyosho builds their race buggies to be as light as possible, too light in my opinion, and still uses 4.5mm on a short arm buggy. Thus 5mm on the long arm kagama (a basher) is a good starting point. I can easily bend the stock 4mm hinge pins. I’ve been through a dozen now.

On short arm cars like the spark, I rarely bend them outside of crashes.
 
danl said:
The inferno MP10 uses 4.5mm. Kyosho builds their race buggies to be as light as possible, too light in my opinion, and still uses 4.5mm on a short arm buggy. Thus 5mm on the long arm kagama (a basher) is a good starting point. I can easily bend the stock 4mm hinge pins. I’ve been through a dozen now.

On short arm cars like the spark, I rarely bend them outside of crashes.
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I have bent Tekno, Arrma, and TC 4mm pins back when I was hitting ramps with my rigs but I eventually decided it was just too costly to keep jumping my rigs recklessly. Also about the time I started clearing trees on my property to make a track.. still much to do in that regard but it's fun and not nearly as expensive as "ramping".
 
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Thumb screw tightened right up. 👌 Much better. Tolerable for now.

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Crafty hidden screws. 🤦

Car is done for now.

Servo and Rx incoming.....
 
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