VaporTrail
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So initially my Shogun was running 50K center, 20K front and 10K rear. Then I dropped it to 30K center, 20K front and 10K rear. It really woke her up around the track, aside from some push in the corners. She's been a beast on 4S, especially with the TP Power motor, which is 1570KV. She can drive respectably around the track, but definitely needs precise throttle control. Her weight can also cause issues, as she carries more momentum into the turns. Last I checked she was around 9-10lbs without a battery. Chonky girl. 
Just this past weekend I was able to run my ET48.3. That's also on 4S, but with a HW G2 2200KV motor. She's slower in terms of pure speed compared to the Shogun, but she's a scalpel in the turns and floats like a butterfly in the jumps. She jumps like she was born for it and her trajectory is always stable, unless the driver goofs it up.
Upon further introspection, I deduced that the snappiness of the Shogun is largely due to it's massive spur gear. I put a 15T pinion on the TP motor to calm it down a little, but that really didn't help much. She still had a ton of torque. In a further attempt to ease up the power delivery, I pulled the center diff from my Python which has a 46T spur. I also changed the center diff fluid to 20K. I have a Castle 1515 motor that I may try putting in it as well; I think that would have more rollout than the TP motor that's currently in there. That should help a little in the turns.
Its an interesting comparison when you run the two back to back. The Shogun is a veritable tank; she's a brute with the power and will also fly down the straight like an arrow with it's butt on fire. Tends to push in the turns, but also flies surprisingly well. She's planted and won't over-rotate in the turns unless you're heavy on the happy trigger. Saddled with a lighter pack she can be surprisingly nimble, but she doesn't react as fast as the 48.3. Overall easier to drive, but requires concentration to turn out good lines.
The 48.3 is slower in terms of speed, but she's a good couple of levels above the Shogun in terms of dicing it up on the inside. She floats around the track and will roll through a turn to give you some pretty wicked lines coming out of the apex. Lumbers a bit with a 6500mAh 4S, but saddle her with the 5200? She jumps like she's floating and is ready to fly right when she lands. She'll squat and then take off before the dirt from her jump hits the floor. Twitchy compared to the Shogun; you need to concentrate on your steering because once you point her, she's off to the races. Requires more concentration to drive, but that's due to her reacting pretty well to steering inputs. It's easy to overshoot your apex and screw up your exit line.
That all being said, I have now switched out the center diff of the Shogun for the Python's center diff. 46T spur should be comparable to the 48.3's 44T spur. They're both running 20 20 10 for diff fluid and both are running 50/40 shock oil. I'm hoping the switch to a 46T and 20K fluid will bring the Shogun closer to the 48.3 in terms of handling. I know there's a weight difference, but I haven't weighed the 48.3 yet to know exactly what it is.
If all goes well, I should be able to run this weekend. I'll be sure to report back on the results.
Just this past weekend I was able to run my ET48.3. That's also on 4S, but with a HW G2 2200KV motor. She's slower in terms of pure speed compared to the Shogun, but she's a scalpel in the turns and floats like a butterfly in the jumps. She jumps like she was born for it and her trajectory is always stable, unless the driver goofs it up.
Upon further introspection, I deduced that the snappiness of the Shogun is largely due to it's massive spur gear. I put a 15T pinion on the TP motor to calm it down a little, but that really didn't help much. She still had a ton of torque. In a further attempt to ease up the power delivery, I pulled the center diff from my Python which has a 46T spur. I also changed the center diff fluid to 20K. I have a Castle 1515 motor that I may try putting in it as well; I think that would have more rollout than the TP motor that's currently in there. That should help a little in the turns.
Its an interesting comparison when you run the two back to back. The Shogun is a veritable tank; she's a brute with the power and will also fly down the straight like an arrow with it's butt on fire. Tends to push in the turns, but also flies surprisingly well. She's planted and won't over-rotate in the turns unless you're heavy on the happy trigger. Saddled with a lighter pack she can be surprisingly nimble, but she doesn't react as fast as the 48.3. Overall easier to drive, but requires concentration to turn out good lines.
The 48.3 is slower in terms of speed, but she's a good couple of levels above the Shogun in terms of dicing it up on the inside. She floats around the track and will roll through a turn to give you some pretty wicked lines coming out of the apex. Lumbers a bit with a 6500mAh 4S, but saddle her with the 5200? She jumps like she's floating and is ready to fly right when she lands. She'll squat and then take off before the dirt from her jump hits the floor. Twitchy compared to the Shogun; you need to concentrate on your steering because once you point her, she's off to the races. Requires more concentration to drive, but that's due to her reacting pretty well to steering inputs. It's easy to overshoot your apex and screw up your exit line.
That all being said, I have now switched out the center diff of the Shogun for the Python's center diff. 46T spur should be comparable to the 48.3's 44T spur. They're both running 20 20 10 for diff fluid and both are running 50/40 shock oil. I'm hoping the switch to a 46T and 20K fluid will bring the Shogun closer to the 48.3 in terms of handling. I know there's a weight difference, but I haven't weighed the 48.3 yet to know exactly what it is.
If all goes well, I should be able to run this weekend. I'll be sure to report back on the results.
