6S Kagama "Arm Holder Inserts" AKA Toe Pills, what goes where?

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Corally RC's
  1. Kagama
  2. Spark
This part here: COR00180-907
https://corally.com/en/product/c-00180-907/

I'm in the middle of service and got these mixed up. I thought I knew but the image I am looking at in the manual conflicts with what I thought. Do the 1's go in the Front Rear or do they go in the Rear Rear's? Do the numbers face "right side up" on both sides?
 
The different numbers give different degrees of toe, you’ll want them facing same way up.
 
Numbers on front rear
That’s what I thought! The diagram picture I found shows them on the rear rear.

If someone can entertain me for a second, help me understand why one number wouldn’t be right side up any the other side upside down? Wouldn’t both right side up make one wheel tow in and the other toe out? I’m just not understanding it.
 
You might be right on your thinking if looks close at pic one side does look
Upside down, just fit them so you’ve got the same toe both sides there only so many ways you can install them you’ll get it right eventually lol

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Using a straight edge across the D block and measuring to the hub with my calipers, I am showing equal toe in with the #1 pill upside down on the front left rear and another #1 pill right side up on the front right rear. With the #1 pills both right ride up, the left rear didn’t match the right rears toe.

This goes against what you can see in the corally part photo. Also sadly jennysrc photo does not show numbers on the pills, maybe this is a LE specific part for now?
 
Might get a better look on corally vid but this is do rc vid should look like this can see the toe angle on arms wider gap at front c block compared to the rear d block.


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This is the RR (D block). Mine has zeros in here.

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This is the FR (C block)Looks like 1’s as well, both right side up.

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Unless I’m missing a core concept, 1’s all around will cancel each other out?

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Don’t really see them on many bashers or on Aftermarket hinge pin holders most don’t use the pills just a fixed setup more a tuning aid used on race buggy’s/truggys. Design of the arms also comes into it I changed the rear arms on my buggy to typhon ones and design of the arms changed the toe angle.

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Don’t really see them on many bashers or on Aftermarket hinge pin holders most don’t use the pills just a fixed setup more a tuning aid used on race buggy’s/truggys. Design of the arms also comes into it I changed the rear arms on my buggy to typhon ones and design of the arms changed the toe angle.

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I am trying to get more stability off of jumps. It has been kicking to one side a lot and has caused some crashes. My thinking was that I messed up the suspension pills. To be honest, even a slightly bent hinge pin or wobble in the arms/hubs will change the toe more.

What’s the reason for Typhon arms?
 
I am trying to get more stability off of jumps. It has been kicking to one side a lot and has caused some crashes. My thinking was that I messed up the suspension pills. To be honest, even a slightly bent hinge pin or wobble in the arms/hubs will change the toe more.

What’s the reason for Typhon arms?
Don’t know if adjusting toe will improve landings probably more shock tuning area want look at. Fitted typhon arms so could fit scorched hubs

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I been swapping them out on the rear a few times and not realised they had numbers 😅 , thinking of it after a few crashes the holes open up that much doubt it makes much difference for my uses 🤣.
 
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