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It's been a while since I updated this thread. I am in the car right now but I will see if I can update it later today, otherwise later this week. I made some nice changes...

Anyway, my fan broke a little while back. Probably due to inadequate protection. I only had a thin grill. It was a rocket 40mm fan. This afternoon I was going to place an order but I am debating if I should get one of those 1A server fans or another rocket fan.

I can get both for around ~€12,-. Currently I run my BEC at 6v. I don't know if I should put it to 7.4v because I am still running stock servo and I hear some people burn them out quickly on 7.4. My Esc doens't get too hot, but it is a bit close. With the rocket fan my motor was OK. Only on the hotter days when I pushed it hard it got too hot.

So which voltage do I run?
And what fan should I get?
- server fan: better cooling, harder on BEC.
- rocket fan: less cooling, easier on BEC.
Is there a difference in durability?

I really don't want to run external BEC and/or extra battery. Maaaybe if I can keep it under €10.
I've been running 7.4v from the Torox esc since day one, maybe it contributed to the stock servo(s) demise? IDK, but also not concerned about it. Quite sure the stock servo is rated to at least 7.4v. As to the fans, I had a rocket fan once, and just once. Turns out they're just as susceptible to physical damage as any other, $20 down the drain in one outing. Also had a Ruddog from Amain, lasted quite a while, the solder failed on one of the leads and I don't solder well on PCB's it turns out. Toast. So, now I just buy the cheapest 5v fans in 35/40mm with ball bearings from Amazon. I think my last purchase was 5 for $20.
IMO, fans are too easily fouled up to spend even $20 a piece on.. Also I run those cheap amazon 5v rated fans on 7.4v, no problem.
 
It's been a while since I updated this thread. I am in the car right now but I will see if I can update it later today, otherwise later this week. I made some nice changes...

Anyway, my fan broke a little while back. Probably due to inadequate protection. I only had a thin grill. It was a rocket 40mm fan. This afternoon I was going to place an order but I am debating if I should get one of those 1A server fans or another rocket fan.

I can get both for around ~€12,-. Currently I run my BEC at 6v. I don't know if I should put it to 7.4v because I am still running stock servo and I hear some people burn them out quickly on 7.4. My Esc doens't get too hot, but it is a bit close. With the rocket fan my motor was OK. Only on the hotter days when I pushed it hard it got too hot.

So which voltage do I run?
And what fan should I get?
- server fan: better cooling, harder on BEC.
- rocket fan: less cooling, easier on BEC.
Is there a difference in durability?

I really don't want to run external BEC and/or extra battery. Maaaybe if I can keep it under €10.
Ultimately if the fans aren't shielded from dirts ingress, either will fail. Get a shroud. 👍
 
I've been running 7.4v from the Torox esc since day one, maybe it contributed to the stock servo(s) demise? IDK, but also not concerned about it. Quite sure the stock servo is rated to at least 7.4v. As to the fans, I had a rocket fan once, and just once. Turns out they're just as susceptible to physical damage as any other, $20 down the drain in one outing. Also had a Ruddog from Amain, lasted quite a while, the solder failed on one of the leads and I don't solder well on PCB's it turns out. Toast. So, now I just buy the cheapest 5v fans in 35/40mm with ball bearings from Amazon. I think my last purchase was 5 for $20.
IMO, fans are too easily fouled up to spend even $20 a piece on.. Also I run those cheap amazon 5v rated fans on 7.4v, no problem.

Yes, agreed. But I cant find single fans much cheaper then the rocket ones. My rocket lasted me a year so idk 🤷‍♂️. I might look for a pack of fans as you said. I also have a 3dprinter fan laying around but that is 24v so won't spin fast on the 7.4v but might work temporarily. I am going to up the voltage on my BEC as you suggested!:)

Ultimately if the fans aren't shielded from dirts ingress, either will fail. Get a shroud. 👍
Yes, it was long on my to-do list but you know how that goes 😒. Definitely gonna do it now.
 
Yes, agreed. But I cant find single fans much cheaper then the rocket ones. My rocket lasted me a year so idk 🤷‍♂️. I might look for a pack of fans as you said. I also have a 3dprinter fan laying around but that is 24v so won't spin fast on the 7.4v but might work temporarily. I am going to up the voltage on my BEC as you suggested!:)


Yes, it was long on my to-do list but you know how that goes 😒. Definitely gonna do it now.
The rocket fans can be had for cheap off of AliEx or similar, likely your best bet. As @Horatio pointed out, without a grill to protect, none will last very long.
I'm all about saving the green, so I just zip tie the fans to the motor. Though they don't last as long as they "could" without a proper mount and protective grill over them though.
 
Zip ties, no bias plies though! 😁✊🤣

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I do have quite a few other rigs with fans ziptied to the motors, including my prized posession, ET48. LOL 😉😎
Whatever it takes! It has Torox 185/Tenshock 2200kv 6 pole motor running a 19 or 20t pinion, 4s. Amazing!!
 
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It's been a while since I updated this thread. I am in the car right now but I will see if I can update it later today, otherwise later this week. I made some nice changes...

Anyway, my fan broke a little while back. Probably due to inadequate protection. I only had a thin grill. It was a rocket 40mm fan. This afternoon I was going to place an order but I am debating if I should get one of those 1A server fans or another rocket fan.

I can get both for around ~€12,-. Currently I run my BEC at 6v. I don't know if I should put it to 7.4v because I am still running stock servo and I hear some people burn them out quickly on 7.4. My Esc doens't get too hot, but it is a bit close. With the rocket fan my motor was OK. Only on the hotter days when I pushed it hard it got too hot.

So which voltage do I run?
And what fan should I get?
- server fan: better cooling, harder on BEC.
- rocket fan: less cooling, easier on BEC.
Is there a difference in durability?

I really don't want to run external BEC and/or extra battery. Maaaybe if I can keep it under €10.
I still run stock servo on 7.4v, no problems yet and if so I’ll upgrade to a DS3235Pro, which can handle up to 8.4v.
This year I replaced all motor fans to 40mm server fans, the fanblades are way bigger, which I don’t see them break as the Rocket fansblades did. I run them of the reveiver.
I have three unused 40mm 1A server fans left, so PM me if interested.
 
I forgot to mention, but I have indeed snapped a standoff, the rear ones aren't HD stock, replaced them both with HD and never snapped them again. I have thought about getting kraton shocks, but I think with stiffer oil these shocks are fine. They could be even stiffer, but I could also print a shock piston with smaller holes to get the same result. Maybe I'll look into that.

As for the servo saver, I read that thread yesterday and the spring is quite a good find. But I love tinkering around with stuff like this so I am going to try some things with TPU. If I cant make something acceptable I'll just tighten it up and see how long it lasts, if the lifetime gets shorter and shorter I'll probably replace it but for one spring the fees are so expensive. Mabye I gotta buy them in bulk as well and sell them.

I have seen your rig in other posts as well and absolutely love it! Also never seen it dirty XD. Do the carbon inserts in the arms actually make a difference? To me it always seems like they make the more brittle because the arms can flex less, but that's just looking at them.
I changed the standoffs on my Python for Titanium ones. These have not bent at all even when it fell 3 floors onto concrete in a multi story car park. I also have the large front bumper, this sits forward of the front wheels so this takes the punishment rather than the wheels if you get big jumps wrong. Like I regularly do. I know all about the gyro effect when jumping but I just seem to watch it fly and then remember as it’s trying to destroy itself tumbling across the floor. Luckily plenty of upgrades help keep the folded stuff where it belongs. I run it on 6S mostly using a 15 pinion so the wheelie bar was another must. The only issue this has is once fitted the rear spoiler can not be adjusted. It has to sit in the flat position. As for the ply wing mount, great idea but to make it more pleasing to the eye I made mine from polished aluminium bar.

The only issue I have is getting tires to stay glued on. Even my Proline badlands(original not Chinese copy) that were preglued only lasted 20 minutes before a front tire gave out. On 4S they stay on but why buy a 6S if you don’t use it. The best I get to is about 65mph before one of them gives up. This is on grass so the extra grip will be causing this. The stock tyres were rubbish, they just wanted to spin and not grip.This seems a common problem whether you are bashing about or trying to get your next cap at Rossa.

I have pondered on buying Louise truggy wheels and tires and modifying the buggy to fit them as these are supposed to be able to handle 8S on grass. I guess my real problem is that I am too trigger happy rather than wasting the throttle on. But no like Gezzer it’s More Power!
 
So the promised update, although a bit late:

Warning, this is a long post. If you just want the most interesting bits, skip to the new additions. Otherwise: grab a coffee😁.

The 3D-printed shock pistons are still going strong. After my last comment on them I overfilled my shock and one broke. After that I thickened it just a little bit more and refined the design some. They haven't broken since. Which is 4 months according to the post date. I heavily procrastinated on posting them though. I will put them online soon.

The 3D-printed hinge pin holder case I posted earlier is also still on:
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Under there is actually still the broken hinge pin holder because I was waiting for the Swiss steel drive cups to get in stock and with that order the hinge pin holder I wanted. In that time I took it out a couple times and surprisingly the 3D-printed bracket held up. When the drive cups didn't come in stock in the time frame they promised (I e-mailed the shop I was planning to order from), I decided to buy them from Corally directly. But Corally didn't have the hinge pin holder in stock and I couldn't find a place that had both. So in the end I am still running on a partially broken hinge pin holder with a 3D-printed bracket, also for about 4 months now. Some way it hasn't broken again🧐. I will add the hinge pin holder to my next part order though.

I also installed swiss steel drive cups for the center and front diff:
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The back and input cups are still OK. Thanks @Horatio for helping me with the shimming, I got everything shimmed pretty well now. The center diff still has a little bit of play. That is coming from the drive cups being able to move inside the diff. I rebuild the diff dry with the out-drives shimmed, it needed five (I believe) in total, but that made it bind up. So now I am running three or four total, it isn't binding but has some excess play. The front diff needed one extra shim behind the spur. Weirdly my car came shimmed pretty well from the factory: two behind the spur, one on the other side. Before the gears were worn in, this was probably optimal. But from most of you guys I hear they come badly shimmed. I got my car from a influencer who got it from Corally to review, so I wonder if it got cherry-picked:unsure:. Wouldn't be so great from Corally😬.

My wooden wing washer is still holding up surprisingly. I am debating sanding it to make it look nicer, but this look also has something to it. The first iteration of the wing holder broke a couple months back as I posted. After that I iterated the design and then purposefully printed it weak (mostly hollow), so I could see what was the weak point. I addressed that in the design and reprinted in TPU:
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I also added compatibility with the stock screw length. It hasn't broken yet, but the wing did rip out once. However I am using M3 screws, because previously that is what I had on hand. Soon I will change it to M4 screws and add a slot for a washer. I'm pretty sure that will solve the ripping out issue. Currently the first iteration is on my maker world, but when I add the washer slot to the M4 I will post the current (and probably final) design.

I know lots of people also break the big part attached to the shock tower instead of the little holders. To me that never happened. Probably because the TPU holders flex and absorb impact. I have had a couple really bad tail-landings. So my design might fix some of your problems, but there are also some improved designs for the big wing mount online which are probably worth a try as well.


New additions​

Now for a new creation, as I mentioned in an earlier post, my body broke at the rear body posts. This is probably due to the roof being pressed in on roof landings and causing lots of stress on the body. That stress combined with the pretty sharp corners in the rear of the Punisher body lead to cracks pretty quickly. To avoid this, I would recommend getting the foam for the center brace, called: "Center roll cage foam"(C-00180-834). If you do lots of jumping or traction roll frequently, I think it would be a good investment for saving your body.

However, I didn't get that in time so my body is pretty messed up. But I don't want to throw it away yet, so I created a support that fits around the body posts and stops the body from pressing in:
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Even if your body isn't cracked yet, I think it might be worth printing one just to make it's live even easier. Currently my version only has one arm attaching to the chassis braces, but that was for prototyping purposes. When this one breaks, and I expect that is soon, I will print a 2-armed version. I am also planning 3D-printing that center brace foam piece in TPU, the same flexible material I used for the wing mounts. For this part I would use print settings that make it less stiff though.

I also created a custom fan mount, that should improve air circulation inside the body:
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It was mostly an experiment to see how much a change in airflow could improve cooling. So I tried to keep the air flowing in the same direction as it naturally moves through the car. And at the same time direct as much air along as much surface of the motor.

To my surprise there were really noticeable cooling improvements! I tested it out at a new bash spot I just found:
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That day it was about 25C I think and normally I would've expected the motor to get really hot, too hot for my liking. I usually bash at the local pump track or the small field in front of my house, which is way less intense then these grass hills. However, that same bash my fan also died. I think this new fan mount contributed to that. The fan is catching way more debris in this position then when it sits flush to the motor. But this could've be prevented in the first place with adequate protection like a full chassis shroud or a little offset and tighter mesh cover. I have lots of improvements in mind for a redesign, which hopefully will utilize this improved airflow, without the drawback of being harsh on the fans.

The last thing I tried are some 3D-printed shock protectors:
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They work well, as in they keep debris and dirt out of the shock. But durability wise they aren't up to the task. At least not yet. I have gone through about 5-10 revisions already. First improving the fit and then strengthening the design. I started with plain "sleeves". Then I added the quarter twist. These versions were printed upright, but they broke to quickly. I revised the print orientation which made them a great deal stronger. If your interested here is a short explanation of why that is:
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Anyway, the last two versions were printed on the side, like this:
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They lasted me awhile, until I drove into a bush:
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Currently they could be used on-road, but as soon as something like a branch hits the protector it snaps. I used PETG for these, ideally I would use TPU or Nylon. However my printer isn't capable of nylon and the TPU I currently have is not stiff enough. If I would use my current TPU I would need to make them way to big to make them stiff enough. I do want this to work though, as they were really nice when they lasted. I am going to revise the design yet again, and maybe I will have to pull the trigger on some stiff TPU. That stuff is pretty expensive though, basically the stiffer you go, the harder it gets to manufacture.

Okay, last thing. When it gets winter here I will probably start to work on removing slop, as my steering got really sloppy over summer. What are some things you guys did to improve it? I will be servicing my hubs, and tightening and possibly shimming my pillow balls. I also really like the work @Nelson.81 is doing with the HPI servo saver springs. If that works out I might try it as well. Otherwise I might have to find some Dutch locals who are also in need, so we can get the Lee Spring minimum order count. What are some other areas worth checking for slop?
 
So the promised update, although a bit late:

Warning, this is a long post. If you just want the most interesting bits, skip to the new additions. Otherwise: grab a coffee😁.

The 3D-printed shock pistons are still going strong. After my last comment on them I overfilled my shock and one broke. After that I thickened it just a little bit more and refined the design some. They haven't broken since. Which is 4 months according to the post date. I heavily procrastinated on posting them though. I will put them online soon.

The 3D-printed hinge pin holder case I posted earlier is also still on:
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Under there is actually still the broken hinge pin holder because I was waiting for the Swiss steel drive cups to get in stock and with that order the hinge pin holder I wanted. In that time I took it out a couple times and surprisingly the 3D-printed bracket held up. When the drive cups didn't come in stock in the time frame they promised (I e-mailed the shop I was planning to order from), I decided to buy them from Corally directly. But Corally didn't have the hinge pin holder in stock and I couldn't find a place that had both. So in the end I am still running on a partially broken hinge pin holder with a 3D-printed bracket, also for about 4 months now. Some way it hasn't broken again🧐. I will add the hinge pin holder to my next part order though.

I also installed swiss steel drive cups for the center and front diff:
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The back and input cups are still OK. Thanks @Horatio for helping me with the shimming, I got everything shimmed pretty well now. The center diff still has a little bit of play. That is coming from the drive cups being able to move inside the diff. I rebuild the diff dry with the out-drives shimmed, it needed five (I believe) in total, but that made it bind up. So now I am running three or four total, it isn't binding but has some excess play. The front diff needed one extra shim behind the spur. Weirdly my car came shimmed pretty well from the factory: two behind the spur, one on the other side. Before the gears were worn in, this was probably optimal. But from most of you guys I hear they come badly shimmed. I got my car from a influencer who got it from Corally to review, so I wonder if it got cherry-picked:unsure:. Wouldn't be so great from Corally😬.

My wooden wing washer is still holding up surprisingly. I am debating sanding it to make it look nicer, but this look also has something to it. The first iteration of the wing holder broke a couple months back as I posted. After that I iterated the design and then purposefully printed it weak (mostly hollow), so I could see what was the weak point. I addressed that in the design and reprinted in TPU:
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I also added compatibility with the stock screw length. It hasn't broken yet, but the wing did rip out once. However I am using M3 screws, because previously that is what I had on hand. Soon I will change it to M4 screws and add a slot for a washer. I'm pretty sure that will solve the ripping out issue. Currently the first iteration is on my maker world, but when I add the washer slot to the M4 I will post the current (and probably final) design.

I know lots of people also break the big part attached to the shock tower instead of the little holders. To me that never happened. Probably because the TPU holders flex and absorb impact. I have had a couple really bad tail-landings. So my design might fix some of your problems, but there are also some improved designs for the big wing mount online which are probably worth a try as well.


New additions​

Now for a new creation, as I mentioned in an earlier post, my body broke at the rear body posts. This is probably due to the roof being pressed in on roof landings and causing lots of stress on the body. That stress combined with the pretty sharp corners in the rear of the Punisher body lead to cracks pretty quickly. To avoid this, I would recommend getting the foam for the center brace, called: "Center roll cage foam"(C-00180-834). If you do lots of jumping or traction roll frequently, I think it would be a good investment for saving your body.

However, I didn't get that in time so my body is pretty messed up. But I don't want to throw it away yet, so I created a support that fits around the body posts and stops the body from pressing in:
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Even if your body isn't cracked yet, I think it might be worth printing one just to make it's live even easier. Currently my version only has one arm attaching to the chassis braces, but that was for prototyping purposes. When this one breaks, and I expect that is soon, I will print a 2-armed version. I am also planning 3D-printing that center brace foam piece in TPU, the same flexible material I used for the wing mounts. For this part I would use print settings that make it less stiff though.

I also created a custom fan mount, that should improve air circulation inside the body:
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It was mostly an experiment to see how much a change in airflow could improve cooling. So I tried to keep the air flowing in the same direction as it naturally moves through the car. And at the same time direct as much air along as much surface of the motor.

To my surprise there were really noticeable cooling improvements! I tested it out at a new bash spot I just found:
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That day it was about 25C I think and normally I would've expected the motor to get really hot, too hot for my liking. I usually bash at the local pump track or the small field in front of my house, which is way less intense then these grass hills. However, that same bash my fan also died. I think this new fan mount contributed to that. The fan is catching way more debris in this position then when it sits flush to the motor. But this could've be prevented in the first place with adequate protection like a full chassis shroud or a little offset and tighter mesh cover. I have lots of improvements in mind for a redesign, which hopefully will utilize this improved airflow, without the drawback of being harsh on the fans.

The last thing I tried are some 3D-printed shock protectors:
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They work well, as in they keep debris and dirt out of the shock. But durability wise they aren't up to the task. At least not yet. I have gone through about 5-10 revisions already. First improving the fit and then strengthening the design. I started with plain "sleeves". Then I added the quarter twist. These versions were printed upright, but they broke to quickly. I revised the print orientation which made them a great deal stronger. If your interested here is a short explanation of why that is:
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Anyway, the last two versions were printed on the side, like this:
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They lasted me awhile, until I drove into a bush:
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Currently they could be used on-road, but as soon as something like a branch hits the protector it snaps. I used PETG for these, ideally I would use TPU or Nylon. However my printer isn't capable of nylon and the TPU I currently have is not stiff enough. If I would use my current TPU I would need to make them way to big to make them stiff enough. I do want this to work though, as they were really nice when they lasted. I am going to revise the design yet again, and maybe I will have to pull the trigger on some stiff TPU. That stuff is pretty expensive though, basically the stiffer you go, the harder it gets to manufacture.

Okay, last thing. When it gets winter here I will probably start to work on removing slop, as my steering got really sloppy over summer. What are some things you guys did to improve it? I will be servicing my hubs, and tightening and possibly shimming my pillow balls. I also really like the work @Nelson.81 is doing with the HPI servo saver springs. If that works out I might try it as well. Otherwise I might have to find some Dutch locals who are also in need, so we can get the Lee Spring minimum order count. What are some other areas worth checking for slop?

The hpi spring & steering work good just don’t drive into a metal girder in the dark during nightshift at 5am ffs. There was a Mline punisher released recently its exclusive to 1 corally biggest distributors Germany but it had some 3d printed parts on it maybe steal a few ideas. Definitely check over everything my hubs where quite loose needed tightening.


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The hpi spring & steering work good just don’t drive into a metal girder in the dark during nightshift at 5am ffs. There was a Mline punisher released recently its exclusive to 1 corally biggest distributors Germany but it had some 3d printed parts on it maybe steal a few ideas. Definitely check over everything my hubs where quite loose needed tightening.


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Wow! That Punisher looks sick! Currently have enough winter projects in line, but when I get bored I might try some of the things from that car.
Are you still running the spring too tight at the bottom? Or have you managed to stretch it? I was thinking of printing a little ring to put on the nut so it has a flat surface. Just to make everything looks cleaner.
Will definitely check everything and tighten! Maybe a full rebuild even...

I changed the standoffs on my Python for Titanium ones. These have not bent at all even when it fell 3 floors onto concrete in a multi story car park. I also have the large front bumper, this sits forward of the front wheels so this takes the punishment rather than the wheels if you get big jumps wrong. Like I regularly do. I know all about the gyro effect when jumping but I just seem to watch it fly and then remember as it’s trying to destroy itself tumbling across the floor. Luckily plenty of upgrades help keep the folded stuff where it belongs. I run it on 6S mostly using a 15 pinion so the wheelie bar was another must. The only issue this has is once fitted the rear spoiler can not be adjusted. It has to sit in the flat position. As for the ply wing mount, great idea but to make it more pleasing to the eye I made mine from polished aluminium bar.

The only issue I have is getting tires to stay glued on. Even my Proline badlands(original not Chinese copy) that were preglued only lasted 20 minutes before a front tire gave out. On 4S they stay on but why buy a 6S if you don’t use it. The best I get to is about 65mph before one of them gives up. This is on grass so the extra grip will be causing this. The stock tyres were rubbish, they just wanted to spin and not grip.This seems a common problem whether you are bashing about or trying to get your next cap at Rossa.

I have pondered on buying Louise truggy wheels and tires and modifying the buggy to fit them as these are supposed to be able to handle 8S on grass. I guess my real problem is that I am too trigger happy rather than wasting the throttle on. But no like Gezzer it’s More Power!
I have not broken a standoff after changing to the HD ones.
I don't run on 6s but so far no problems with tires ungluing. I do know lots of people have problems with proline ungluing though. I haven't tried a wide variety of tires myself, but Im sure some other people here or on AF have good recommendations. Personally I haven't heard much bad about Louise but I don't know about 8s..
 
The hpi spring & steering work good just don’t drive into a metal girder in the dark during nightshift at 5am ffs. There was a Mline punisher released recently its exclusive to 1 corally biggest distributors Germany but it had some 3d printed parts on it maybe steal a few ideas.


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Wow! That Punisher looks sick! Currently have enough winter projects in line, but when I get bored I might try some of the things from that car.
Are you still running the spring too tight at the bottom? Or have you managed to stretch it? I was thinking of printing a little ring to put on the nut so it has a flat surface. Just to make everything looks cleaner.
Will definitely check everything and tighten! Maybe a full rebuild even...


I have not broken a standoff after changing to the HD ones.
I don't run on 6s but so far no problems with tires ungluing. I do know lots of people have problems with proline ungluing though. I haven't tried a wide variety of tires myself, but Im sure some other people here or on AF have good recommendations. Personally I haven't heard much bad about Louise but I don't know about 8s..
I didn’t cut the spring this time just installed it as did 1st time didn’t try open spring out, it doesn’t sit flush on nut and is a pain to fit but works as it’s fitted for now
( I had to turn servo saver upside down fit spring push down on the nut and rotate the servo around it until feel threads catch, the spring is so tight trying to compress it and rotate the nut on this way I found easiest to get it on) only ran it on 4s pack on storage charge before crashing so can’t say I’ve run much with it yet but steering was good until it wasn’t 😅. pics how 1st installed it how it installed now.

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Nice, I can imagine it is a pain to get on there but it seems doable. When you get it running again I would love to hear some more feedback on the steering improvements.
 
I changed the standoffs on my Python for Titanium ones. These have not bent at all even when it fell 3 floors onto concrete in a multi story car park. I also have the large front bumper, this sits forward of the front wheels so this takes the punishment rather than the wheels if you get big jumps wrong. Like I regularly do. I know all about the gyro effect when jumping but I just seem to watch it fly and then remember as it’s trying to destroy itself tumbling across the floor. Luckily plenty of upgrades help keep the folded stuff where it belongs. I run it on 6S mostly using a 15 pinion so the wheelie bar was another must. The only issue this has is once fitted the rear spoiler can not be adjusted. It has to sit in the flat position. As for the ply wing mount, great idea but to make it more pleasing to the eye I made mine from polished aluminium bar.

The only issue I have is getting tires to stay glued on. Even my Proline badlands(original not Chinese copy) that were preglued only lasted 20 minutes before a front tire gave out. On 4S they stay on but why buy a 6S if you don’t use it. The best I get to is about 65mph before one of them gives up. This is on grass so the extra grip will be causing this. The stock tyres were rubbish, they just wanted to spin and not grip.This seems a common problem whether you are bashing about or trying to get your next cap at Rossa.

I have pondered on buying Louise truggy wheels and tires and modifying the buggy to fit them as these are supposed to be able to handle 8S on grass. I guess my real problem is that I am too trigger happy rather than wasting the throttle on. But no like Gezzer it’s More Power!
I have the titanium ADU Racing standoffs and they are indeed bulletproof. As to the Badlands, I have trouble keeping them on the rims as well. I have problems when I hit 50mph. I re-glue them with BSI ic-2000 CA glue, then do two layers of shoe goo on top of the glued area AFTER the CA glue dries. I do about a 1 inch band of shoe goo around the glued area of the tire. This isn't perfect, but the shoe goo allows the tires to balloon more before ripping. Because, yes, if I just keep regluing with CA glue, then eventually the glue stays and the tire rips about 1mm beyond the glued area.
$160 for tires is plenty for me, and if they don't stay glued on 6s, what am I paying for ?
Rubber isn't that expensive, so why isn't it engineered better, or glued better at the factory. Sure, Horizon Hobby shipped me out a new set, which also came unglued, not quite as fast as the first set.
I don't know if beadlocks are the only way around this, but beadlock rims add weight that I can't afford to add.
 
I have the titanium ADU Racing standoffs and they are indeed bulletproof. As to the Badlands, I have trouble keeping them on the rims as well. I have problems when I hit 50mph. I re-glue them with BSI ic-2000 CA glue, then do two layers of shoe goo on top of the glued area AFTER the CA glue dries. I do about a 1 inch band of shoe goo around the glued area of the tire. This isn't perfect, but the shoe goo allows the tires to balloon more before ripping. Because, yes, if I just keep regluing with CA glue, then eventually the glue stays and the tire rips about 1mm beyond the glued area.
$160 for tires is plenty for me, and if they don't stay glued on 6s, what am I paying for ?
Rubber isn't that expensive, so why isn't it engineered better, or glued better at the factory. Sure, Horizon Hobby shipped me out a new set, which also came unglued, not quite as fast as the first set.
I don't know if beadlocks are the only way around this, but beadlock rims add weight that I can't afford to add.
Tires are crazy money for rc cars for what they are makes me sick especially given how quickly you can kill a set. I’ve had same issues with badlands I think they just to heavy & soft sidewalks always rip. I’m trying the method rc belted much lighter but not really run them yet given the weather so can’t say if they good or bad yet but my go too budget tire is the vp pro bulldogs, not belted but don’t balloon to badly on buggy but do a bit on Kronos with max6 combo but ain’t blown or ripped a set of rims once & gone through a few sets.

 
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