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I’m just running

I’ve changed about everything at some point, and then I chaged it again. Currently I’m running the Kraton springs on my Kagama with the arena 6s bf’s or Sweep Terrain Crushers, kinda preferring the Sweeps unless I’m really bashing hard.

The SSTE’s are still around, you just need to look for them, at least in the US. I can usually find the RTR for just under $500 US and the ARR version is usually between $300-375 US. I have only ever used the ARR. it’s a really good deal for the $$$ imo. The only drawback for me is that they are already built. 😦 At least with the ARR, you can source the electronics and set it up how “you” want it. That parts dope! 👍👍👍👍.

I dropped the same electronics as come stock in Kagama, just a different servo so I jokingly say it’s “Corally Powered”. It’s definitely one of my favorites. Beyond RC has a good review of them on his YouTube channel. I may order a second for my street basher project but I’ve got a couple of other things to pick up ahead of it.

😈😈😈😈

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That's one helluva an air rifle!!!! 🤩
 
I have the the utmost respect for Ryan Lutz and love his onboard footage. For the record, he's a terrific driver, too. And a bloody giant!! He must be nearly 7 feet tall, but the nicest guy.

However, it's a stretch to 'recreate' the effects of bumps and rutts by giggling the car around. And I wouldn't do it if there's anyone in the vicinity that could witness you doing it...😝😜

I think it's all about balance. How you drive, how much weight transfer you need and what you find drivable.

The purpose of our oil-filled shock bodies is to absorb energy and prevent it from being transmitted back into ground, in an ever decreasing cycle of 'boing'. (Under damped/over sprung).

The purpose of the spring is to support the weight of the vehicle, keeping wheels/tyres in contact with the ground, return the wheel to the right place on undulating ground and/or whilst enduring acceleration forces during conering.

Left unchecked, suspension will bounce, meaning that tyres part company from the ground, seriously reducing traction and braking. Think friction dampers - or the Tamiya Grasshopper, boinging around all over the place. 🤣

There's a lot going on - especially if you take into account all the dynamic forces acting on the chassis as well.

We want our suspension to be able to move as fast as possible (with the least amount of unsprung weight), whilst keeping the tyre in contact with the ground.

Really the only way of getting it perfect for you and your condition on the day is to try for yourself how changing springs and oil weight works for you.

Generally, with higher rate springs, you'll need accordingly higher weight oil to control the oscillations.

Here's the thing. It's always going to be a compromise. You can improve damping and it will be at the expense of response.

You can improve you landings from slap, but it will be at the expense of bump handling.

As you get more experienced, you can choose what to prioritise.

For bashing, you can settle with factory suggestions and learn to 'drive around' certain compromises instead - it's quicker and easier.

Food for thought: Have you ever swapped controllers at the end of a race, with a near peer, and wondered 'how the hell did you manage to finish the race with that thing?!!'.

I have. This is why you should find out what works for you. 😝 The only person that needs to be satisfied it's right, is you.

The majority of folks here have lots of experience wrenching and upgrading, but tuning geometry is something of a dark art. 🤣
Hi H,

First I have to say I cracked up reading your post when I got to work this morning " I wouldn't do it with anyone in the vicinity" I know what you mean there!:ROFLMAO:. Ryan does seem like a great guy and a great driver. As someone who's 6'6" myself I see him on the drivers stand head and shoulders above all the other guys..


I'm not sure if jiggling it is a stretch though H because if you watch the Lutz video above around the 4m 30sec mark you'll see he says he does that no matter where he goes to see if he's in the ball park with his shock set up.. Appreciate all the info mate , agree with all you said 100%.. Your question about if I'd swapped controllers with a mate I have but not at a proper RC track ( I plan to join a club about an hour from me to start racing my TA Buggy but just haven't had time) but have at the park. Mate has a BLX 6S Kraton and he has MASSIVE wheels/tyres on it that make it handle terribly and compared to my EXB with the BF's on it it's night and day different. He's a stubborn bugger and keeps persisting even though it's causing wear on his drivetrain but oh well can't help everyone!:D

As this is just for fun at the park If I can improve it a little with some new oil I'll be stoked.. Testing is all part of the fun I reckon!

Have a nice weekend mate.

Cheers
Mark

I’m just running

I’ve changed about everything at some point, and then I chaged it again. Currently I’m running the Kraton springs on my Kagama with the arena 6s bf’s or Sweep Terrain Crushers, kinda preferring the Sweeps unless I’m really bashing hard.

The SSTE’s are still around, you just need to look for them, at least in the US. I can usually find the RTR for just under $500 US and the ARR version is usually between $300-375 US. I have only ever used the ARR. it’s a really good deal for the $$$ imo. The only drawback for me is that they are already built. 😦 At least with the ARR, you can source the electronics and set it up how “you” want it. That parts dope! 👍👍👍👍.

I dropped the same electronics as come stock in Kagama, just a different servo so I jokingly say it’s “Corally Powered”. It’s definitely one of my favorites. Beyond RC has a good review of them on his YouTube channel. I may order a second for my street basher project but I’ve got a couple of other things to pick up ahead of it.

😈😈😈😈

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Hi Mate,

Cheers for the reply. The testing and trying is all part of the fun they reckon.. I'll try an oil change on its own first and if need be I'll follow your lead and try the Arrma springs..

I watch Beyond RC as well and when people mention the SSTE I think of his review as it's the best one I've seen.. I really want that TEKNO Truggy for my next purchase then after that I'm starting to want a Mojave or SCT . With Arrma seemingly not making much at the moment I wrote to TC on Instagram and asked them if they would ever make a 8th or 7th scale SCT to which the replied " can't confirm or deny but watch this space" I'd love it if they would bring one out I reckon it'd be sweet as!!

That's a mean looking rifle there..

Have a great weekend!

Cheers,

Mark

I’m just running

I’ve changed about everything at some point, and then I chaged it again. Currently I’m running the Kraton springs on my Kagama with the arena 6s bf’s or Sweep Terrain Crushers, kinda preferring the Sweeps unless I’m really bashing hard.

The SSTE’s are still around, you just need to look for them, at least in the US. I can usually find the RTR for just under $500 US and the ARR version is usually between $300-375 US. I have only ever used the ARR. it’s a really good deal for the $$$ imo. The only drawback for me is that they are already built. 😦 At least with the ARR, you can source the electronics and set it up how “you” want it. That parts dope! 👍👍👍👍.

I dropped the same electronics as come stock in Kagama, just a different servo so I jokingly say it’s “Corally Powered”. It’s definitely one of my favorites. Beyond RC has a good review of them on his YouTube channel. I may order a second for my street basher project but I’ve got a couple of other things to pick up ahead of it.

😈😈😈😈

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Order is in!
Hi Mate,

Cheers for the reply. The testing and trying is all part of the fun they reckon.. I'll try an oil change on its own first and if need be I'll follow your lead and try the Arrma springs..

I watch Beyond RC as well and when people mention the SSTE I think of his review as it's the best one I've seen.. I really want that TEKNO Truggy for my next purchase then after that I'm starting to want a Mojave or SCT . With Arrma seemingly not making much at the moment I wrote to TC on Instagram and asked them if they would ever make a 8th or 7th scale SCT to which the replied " can't confirm or deny but watch this space" I'd love it if they would bring one out I reckon it'd be sweet as!!

That's a mean looking rifle there..

Have a great weekend!

Cheers,

Mark
 
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I guess it's all about getting a feeling of what your suspension is doing. If giggling the chassis up and down (🙈) works for Ryan, then hey! Don't knock it til you try it.

I struggle to rap my head around it because when suspension is working theoretically perfectly, the chassis isn't actually moving at all. It's the wheel and suspension that moves rapidly up and down, whilst the chassis doesn't move relative to the wheel at all.

So grabbing the chassis and quickly moving it up and down seems arse backwards to me. 😝🤣

However, this is how Ryan 'feels' what the suspension is doing. The rest of the video goes into sound advice and explanatory notes.

I'm sure we all boing our rigs up and down, to see if the shocks are working, or squeaky etc. Kev Talbot made it his iconic slo mo shot in every video, so...🤷

It's quite satisfying to be fair......😝
 
I think you are right I have caught it abroad or on the plane the last two times I have had it ! I hope you feel better soon !!
Cheers bud! Temperature normal now. 👍

Soooo, it's Baja time! 😁
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I have the the utmost respect for Ryan Lutz and love his onboard footage. For the record, he's a terrific driver, too. And a bloody giant!! He must be nearly 7 feet tall, but the nicest guy.

However, it's a stretch to 'recreate' the effects of bumps and rutts by giggling the car around. And I wouldn't do it if there's anyone in the vicinity that could witness you doing it...😝😜

I think it's all about balance. How you drive, how much weight transfer you need and what you find drivable.

The purpose of our oil-filled shock bodies is to absorb energy and prevent it from being transmitted back into ground, in an ever decreasing cycle of 'boing'. (Under damped/over sprung).

The purpose of the spring is to support the weight of the vehicle, keeping wheels/tyres in contact with the ground, return the wheel to the right place on undulating ground and/or whilst enduring acceleration forces during conering.

Left unchecked, suspension will bounce, meaning that tyres part company from the ground, seriously reducing traction and braking. Think friction dampers - or the Tamiya Grasshopper, boinging around all over the place. 🤣

There's a lot going on - especially if you take into account all the dynamic forces acting on the chassis as well.

We want our suspension to be able to move as fast as possible (with the least amount of unsprung weight), whilst keeping the tyre in contact with the ground.

Really the only way of getting it perfect for you and your condition on the day is to try for yourself how changing springs and oil weight works for you.

Generally, with higher rate springs, you'll need accordingly higher weight oil to control the oscillations.

Here's the thing. It's always going to be a compromise. You can improve damping and it will be at the expense of response.

You can improve you landings from slap, but it will be at the expense of bump handling.

As you get more experienced, you can choose what to prioritise.

For bashing, you can settle with factory suggestions and learn to 'drive around' certain compromises instead - it's quicker and easier.

Food for thought: Have you ever swapped controllers at the end of a race, with a near peer, and wondered 'how the hell did you manage to finish the race with that thing?!!'.

I have. This is why you should find out what works for you. 😝 The only person that needs to be satisfied it's right, is you.

The majority of folks here have lots of experience wrenching and upgrading, but tuning geometry is something of a dark art. 🤣

very well said, great information. Alot of folks can get overwhelmed with suspension tuning, especially if it's their first time around. Heck, I've been in this hobby for a little while, and I'm still sorting things out!

And yes, plenty of fellow racers have tried their hand at driving my rigs, and they all wonder how I even manage to go straight. :LOL:

I’m just running

I’ve changed about everything at some point, and then I chaged it again. Currently I’m running the Kraton springs on my Kagama with the arena 6s bf’s or Sweep Terrain Crushers, kinda preferring the Sweeps unless I’m really bashing hard.

The SSTE’s are still around, you just need to look for them, at least in the US. I can usually find the RTR for just under $500 US and the ARR version is usually between $300-375 US. I have only ever used the ARR. it’s a really good deal for the $$$ imo. The only drawback for me is that they are already built. 😦 At least with the ARR, you can source the electronics and set it up how “you” want it. That parts dope! 👍👍👍👍.

I dropped the same electronics as come stock in Kagama, just a different servo so I jokingly say it’s “Corally Powered”. It’s definitely one of my favorites. Beyond RC has a good review of them on his YouTube channel. I may order a second for my street basher project but I’ve got a couple of other things to pick up ahead of it.

😈😈😈😈

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What's this? Another Airgunner? Do tell, CCB! I've spent a little time dabbling in that hobby as well! I don't have anything as refined as an FX; most of what I have are pure bruisers. Been wanting an Impact in .357 for a good while now.
 
very well said, great information. Alot of folks can get overwhelmed with suspension tuning, especially if it's their first time around. Heck, I've been in this hobby for a little while, and I'm still sorting things out!

And yes, plenty of fellow racers have tried their hand at driving my rigs, and they all wonder how I even manage to go straight. :LOL:




What's this? Another Airgunner? Do tell, CCB! I've spent a little time dabbling in that hobby as well! I don't have anything as refined as an FX; most of what I have are pure bruisers. Been wanting an Impact in .357 for a good while now.
Hey VT,


lol, yeah, I like air rifles, more specifically pcp air rifles.

Currently I’ve been shooting my AEA HP Max quite a bit. It’s ridiculously accurate .357 and has well over 150fpe at 850fps. The only downside to her is the bark! She’s a loud mamma so you need the oversized moderator. Even with that, she still barks! It’s my coyote gun when they start getting a little too close. Usually the bark scares the hell out of them.

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My other go to at the moment is my Notos. For the price, the Notos can’t be beat imo. It’s light, easy to operate, really accurate and quiet, really quiet, definitely a back yard gun. Plus it’s a .22 moving at 900+fps, so it still packs around 20fpe.

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I have a new FX on order but that’s only because I want one semi auto and FX is tough to beat. I’ve got a pump kit coming for my HP Max as well so I can really make noise!

Where I live in MN, there are Zero restrictions on air rifles, they are simply not considered Fire Arms by the state so it’s really the Wild West when it comes to pcp rifles and with ever evolving and improving tech, things get better and better.

👍
 
I have a Walther lg300 xt carbontec .177. Competition rifle. For fun and long distance i have a semi automatic huben k1 (.22) and a weihrauch hw100 laminated (.22) The huben can go subsonic. Love that thing. The weihrauch is also a beautifull precision rifle. Specs, use Google 😉

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I have a Walther lg300 xt carbontec .177. Competition rifle. For fun and long distance i have a semi automatic huben k1 (.22) and a weihrauch hw100 laminated (.22) The huben can go subsonic. Love that thing. The weihrauch is also a beautifull precision rifle. Specs, use Google 😉

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Stig those are dope! Love them!

I have a few Huben friends that would drool over that! The Weather is mighty nice too! I dig the air tank behind the trigger, I bet it balances really well. I would love to add a Bullpup one day but it won’t be soon. I do like Kalibr and BRK a lot as well. Unfortunately for me, my local dealer is almost exclusively FX so it’s an easy road that way. I definitely think that their is better choices for the $$$ imo, your paying something for that logo but to be fair, I’ve really enjoyed shooting their stuff.

I didn’t think that I would like the .22, I picked up the Notos because it’s a great lightweight and quiet gun that gets small enough to teach my kiddos how to shoot. It fits them great but I was so surprised at how much I enjoyed it. I’ve always liked the larger calibers but I’m definitely becoming more fond of the .22 and the options that are available.

🍻
 
Stig those are dope! Love them!

I have a few Huben friends that would drool over that! The Weather is mighty nice too! I dig the air tank behind the trigger, I bet it balances really well. I would love to add a Bullpup one day but it won’t be soon. I do like Kalibr and BRK a lot as well. Unfortunately for me, my local dealer is almost exclusively FX so it’s an easy road that way. I definitely think that their is better choices for the $$$ imo, your paying something for that logo but to be fair, I’ve really enjoyed shooting their stuff.

I didn’t think that I would like the .22, I picked up the Notos because it’s a great lightweight and quiet gun that gets small enough to teach my kiddos how to shoot. It fits them great but I was so surprised at how much I enjoyed it. I’ve always liked the larger calibers but I’m definitely becoming more fond of the .22 and the options that are available.

🍻
Yeah not a big FX fan. Is a bit like the Traxxas under the airguns (no offence) To much problems i read on forums. So that is a no for me. Will stay at .22 Ammo is much cheaper then the bigger cal. Same goes for the RC world. Made the shooting table myself. Really nice to use in my back garden. Wish list is a caldwell precision turret to setup my scopes correct. And a chonograph. The chonograph for my huben because i can adjust the power. Shooting subsonic with that thing is nuts btw 🤣
 
Hey VT,


lol, yeah, I like air rifles, more specifically pcp air rifles.

Currently I’ve been shooting my AEA HP Max quite a bit. It’s ridiculously accurate .357 and has well over 150fpe at 850fps. The only downside to her is the bark! She’s a loud mamma so you need the oversized moderator. Even with that, she still barks! It’s my coyote gun when they start getting a little too close. Usually the bark scares the hell out of them.

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My other go to at the moment is my Notos. For the price, the Notos can’t be beat imo. It’s light, easy to operate, really accurate and quiet, really quiet, definitely a back yard gun. Plus it’s a .22 moving at 900+fps, so it still packs around 20fpe.

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I have a new FX on order but that’s only because I want one semi auto and FX is tough to beat. I’ve got a pump kit coming for my HP Max as well so I can really make noise!

Where I live in MN, there are Zero restrictions on air rifles, they are simply not considered Fire Arms by the state so it’s really the Wild West when it comes to pcp rifles and with ever evolving and improving tech, things get better and better.

👍

I've been eyeing AEA for a couple years now. Mostly the Challenger. Like I mentioned earlier, I don't really have any works of art in my gaggle of boomsticks; they're all mostly bruisers. The smoothest and most accurate rifle I had was a Winchester/Evanix 70-35. Same hole all day at 30yds, quarter sized groups all the way out to about 80-100 yds. Then someone broke into my house and stole it, along with a Sumatra .25 Carbine. :mad::mad::mad:

I also have a firebreather .22 Bullboss that'll punch holes at 60FPE. Regular weight pellets won't work; I use 28gr slugs in the TJ barrel. Rounding out the collection is a modded Bulldog (Pitbull airguns) that will send a 122gr slug downrange at about 930FPS. A couple of old Korean Duk IL Hunting Masters, a Career .357 and an Evanix Sniper in .357. The current workhorse is my full-size, Piatt-tuned Sumatra .25. That girl will send a 48gr slug downrange at over 1000FPS with the power wheel turned to max. Easy 90+FPE and is accurate enough to punch cloverleafs up to 60yds.

Out here it's pretty much the same. PCPs aren't considered firearms (and rightfully so).

I have a Walther lg300 xt carbontec .177. Competition rifle. For fun and long distance i have a semi automatic huben k1 (.22) and a weihrauch hw100 laminated (.22) The huben can go subsonic. Love that thing. The weihrauch is also a beautifull precision rifle. Specs, use Google 😉

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Nice collection Stig! I've also been drooling over a Huben for a couple years now. That price tag instantly slaps me back to reality, though. :(
 
I've been eyeing AEA for a couple years now. Mostly the Challenger. Like I mentioned earlier, I don't really have any works of art in my gaggle of boomsticks; they're all mostly bruisers. The smoothest and most accurate rifle I had was a Winchester/Evanix 70-35. Same hole all day at 30yds, quarter sized groups all the way out to about 80-100 yds. Then someone broke into my house and stole it, along with a Sumatra .25 Carbine. :mad::mad::mad:

I also have a firebreather .22 Bullboss that'll punch holes at 60FPE. Regular weight pellets won't work; I use 28gr slugs in the TJ barrel. Rounding out the collection is a modded Bulldog (Pitbull airguns) that will send a 122gr slug downrange at about 930FPS. A couple of old Korean Duk IL Hunting Masters, a Career .357 and an Evanix Sniper in .357. The current workhorse is my full-size, Piatt-tuned Sumatra .25. That girl will send a 48gr slug downrange at over 1000FPS with the power wheel turned to max. Easy 90+FPE and is accurate enough to punch cloverleafs up to 60yds.

Out here it's pretty much the same. PCPs aren't considered firearms (and rightfully so).



Nice collection Stig! I've also been drooling over a Huben for a couple years now. That price tag instantly slaps me back to reality, though. :(
It is expensive but it is loads of fun. Rather buy a few expensive one then loads of crap guns with high maintenance costs 😇
 
It is expensive but it is loads of fun. Rather buy a few expensive one then loads of crap guns with high maintenance costs 😇

lol, agreed, good guns are worth the $$, although I have a lot of cheap ones as well but that’s just my ADD getting the better of me. I always need something to tinker with all the time it seems that the cheaper guns suffice for that purpose.

What blows my mind is all the new 88g guns showing up. They are all targeted towards “entry level” and they claim that they are cheaper to operate. The fact that they push this as “cost effective” is pure bs imo. LMAO, one 88gram co2 can is like $20, for what, maybe 100 shots? Thats a lot per shot. I get that with PCP you need a compressor or pump as well but that’s a one time purchase and you’re good to go. I’m sure that they shoot great, but at $40-$60 per session for just the air, no ammo included, ooof, that gets gets spendy fast. I hate to see people get chased out of a hobby for cost, when for just a little bit more, maybe $50 in total, you could run pcp much cheaper in the long run. It seems like their marketing needs a reset.
 
lol, agreed, good guns are worth the $$, although I have a lot of cheap ones as well but that’s just my ADD getting the better of me. I always need something to tinker with all the time it seems that the cheaper guns suffice for that purpose.

What blows my mind is all the new 88g guns showing up. They are all targeted towards “entry level” and they claim that they are cheaper to operate. The fact that they push this as “cost effective” is pure bs imo. LMAO, one 88gram co2 can is like $20, for what, maybe 100 shots? Thats a lot per shot. I get that with PCP you need a compressor or pump as well but that’s a one time purchase and you’re good to go. I’m sure that they shoot great, but at $40-$60 per session for just the air, no ammo included, ooof, that gets gets spendy fast. I hate to see people get chased out of a hobby for cost, when for just a little bit more, maybe $50 in total, you could run pcp much cheaper in the long run. It seems like their marketing needs a reset.
Yeah pcp is expensive in the beginning but i bought a Hills compressor and i love it. And refills are cheap now and you don't need big bottles that need to be certified and filled. So yeah, compressor is expensive but cheaper in the long run. But, buy a good quality one and not some Chinese crap. And co2 has much less power 😈
 
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