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I have fitted an esc Hobbywing QuicRun WP 8BL 150 G2 and like motor QuicRun 4274 SL 2000Kv G2, I'm really amazed by the performances. To be honest, it seems to perform better than the standard Corally combo.
 
Nice! The Quicrun 150a G2 is probably the best budget combo on the market. I'd choose it over the Max 8 G2 myself for price and simplicity. The Max 4278 SD motor while great, is too high in KV for my liking. The 78mm length can be an issue in some applications as well.
 
XC-ESC (OEM of the Mad Max ESCs) are better than Hobbywing IMO (less expensive and they also run cooler) and now that XC-ESC has an Amazon store you can buy them direct with free shipping.
 
Atomic Skull said:
XC-ESC (OEM of the Mad Max ESCs) are better than Hobbywing IMO (less expensive and they also run cooler) and now that XC-ESC has an Amazon store you can buy them direct with free shipping.
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I’ve been eyeing those, what’s held me back thus far is tariffs.. I’ll have to check out the amazon store. Tomorrow is day one of prime days, see if I find any good deals.
 
KnowAir said:
I’ve been eyeing those, what’s held me back thus far is tariffs.. I’ll have to check out the amazon store. Tomorrow is day one of prime days, see if I find any good deals.
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I just checked and most if not all of their ESCs on the Amazon store are 20% off right now. XC E8 was $103 and XC E6 was $127. E6 can be difficult to fit in some Corally vehicles though for example it will only fit in the Shiroi by turning it sideways and removing the switch holder from the sideguard (not that the switch would fit in that it's half the size of a HW switch)

I think the reason they run cooler than HW may simply be due to the larger heatsink and 40mm fan.
 
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Atomic Skull said:
I just checked and most if not all of their ESCs on the Amazon store are 20% off right now. XC E8 was $103 and XC E6 was $127. E6 can be difficult to fit in some Corally vehicles though for example it will only fit in the Shiroi by turning it sideways and removing the switch holder from the sideguard (not that the switch would fit in that it's half the size of a HW switch)

I think the reason they run cooler than HW may simply be due to the larger heatsink and 40mm fan.
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I’ve been dying to try 12s in my K8. The XC esc’s are very tempting indeed.
 
Atomic Skull said:
I just checked and most if not all of their ESCs on the Amazon store are 20% off right now. XC E8 was $103 and XC E6 was $127. E6 can be difficult to fit in some Corally vehicles though for example it will only fit in the Shiroi by turning it sideways and removing the switch holder from the sideguard (not that the switch would fit in that it's half the size of a HW switch)

I think the reason they run cooler than HW may simply be due to the larger heatsink and 40mm fan.
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What type of sensor plug does the XC system use? HW compatible?
 
KnowAir said:
What type of sensor plug does the XC system use? HW compatible?
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Yes HW compatible and they also provide an adapter for "standard" motor sensor connectors. However the sensor lead coming out of the ESC is a lot shorter than the one on Hobbywing ESCs so you might need an extension cable. It does make it more convenient to run it sensorless but if you're going to do that might as well just get one of the much cheaper XC C series sensorless ESCs.
 
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Yes HW compatible and they also provide an adapter for "standard" motor sensor connectors. However the sensor lead coming out of the ESC is a lot shorter than the one on Hobbywing ESCs so you might need an extension cable. It does make it more convenient to run it sensorless but if you're going to do that might as well just get one of the much cheaper XC C series sensorless ESCs.
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Thanks! I see XC is closely mimicking HW lineup, especially the 1/8 6s, the motors all look identical, same sizes and specs too.. suspicious. Are they just a rebrand?
 
I picked mine up on AliExpress in the sale & with vouchers think it worked out less than £130 so that’s about max6 money. From what I’ve seen I’d say they fall in between Hobbywing & castle in terms of outright performance, reliability time will tell but unlike castle they come with Bluetooth which what sold me over the castle, I don’t want to have to plug into a laptop to do anything like do with castle system. See bit more info about the company in this vid.


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They are 100% compatible with HW sensored motors. I got a positive reply from their company staff.
Looks good, and at attractive price points too. But HW really has the market cornered in this area, I myself have an entire fleet of RC's running on HW hardware to great effect.

Yes, I too am tempted by the BT configuration over the air and it makes for less clutter with a programming card. My next one will likely be an XC C series.
 
KnowAir said:
Thanks! I see XC is closely mimicking HW lineup, especially the 1/8 6s, the motors all look identical, same sizes and specs too.. suspicious. Are they just a rebrand?
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No for the ESCs at least, they have similar but different functions in the setup app. Also the XC ESCs have an X-bus lead in addition to the throttle lead which Hobbywing ESCs don't have.The motors could be sourced from the same OEM as Hobbywing's (I am 99% sure HW does not manufacture their motors in-house) but that's not unusual.

I am fairly sure they are using the same trick as Castle and some others use to run the motor cooler i.e. switching to sensorless mode once the ESC gets out of low RPM. Hobbywing ESCs run in sensored mode full time. When I had a Max 8 combo in my Asuga I found that the motor would run 10~20 degrees cooler with the sensor cable disconnected.

Also, you can use the X-bus lead as a second BEC lead to your receiver even if your receiver doesn't support X-bus.
 
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I just discovered an issue between the XC ESC E6 and some ELRS receivers. I found that if I plugged it into a Radiomaster ER5Ci the ESC would fail to initialize if the throttle lead is plugged into channel 1 or channel 2. It works fine if it set the throttle to channel 3, 4 or 5. It also works if I power on the car first and then turn on the transmitter.

I know as a fact that this does not affect the ER3Ci (which is a 3 port surface receiver) as I have that in my Asuga and I had this ESC in it for a while and it had no issues.

I think this may be what's going on or some similar issue:

https://www.youtube.com/watch

Whatever the case something the receiver is doing when booted up with the transmitter on is causing the ESC to throw out an error code on power up (weirdly it gives a battery over voltage error)

The fix is simply to connect the throttle to port three and use that instead, easy to do with an EdgeTX transmitter.

EDIT: Don't even need to change the transmitter setup what I did was move all the connectors over by one so it's 2,3,4,5 instead of 1,2,3,4 starting with the servo and then remapped the channel outputs on the receiver side using the ELRS setup LUA on the radio. So anything the receiver gets on channel 1 goes out channel 2 and so on.

This is ONLY with certain ELRS receivers it doesn't affect anything else.
 
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lee82gx said:
They are 100% compatible with HW sensored motors. I got a positive reply from their company staff.
Looks good, and at attractive price points too. But HW really has the market cornered in this area, I myself have an entire fleet of RC's running on HW hardware to great effect.
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They are compatible and work with HW sensored motors in sensor mode but they can't read the temp from a HW motor, but neither can any other sensored ESC except for HW. Hobbywing has intentionally made their motor's temperature sensors incompatible with other manufacturers so this is really HW's marketing buls**t and not anyone else's fault.

My suggestion would be just don't use a HW motor, if you want a 4274 the Surpass Hobby and Hobbystar sensored 4274 options are good, Team Corally also sells a reasonably priced 42mm sensored motor. If you want something bigger you can't beat the value of the XC ESC 4990.

Also I ran into a compatibility issue in sensored mode between a Leopard 4274 sensored motor and the XC E6, it would "pulse" at high RPM, I dropped to an earlier firmware and there were commutation problems at low speed so the newer firmware was at least better. The Leopard 4274, is a very archaic motor from 2010 though. It also worked fine in sensorless mode so it's just something the ESC doesn't like about it's hall sensor board.
 
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